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 Joss
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or, if you wanted a fighting chance, you could get one of these.
http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=pr ... ct_id=3661
I would have bought one ages ago, if it wasn't for funds, ukara, etc....


 
Posted : 03/05/2010 10:23 pm
 stof
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As I remember it at "Caen" Aitch had a moscart firing flintlock blunderbuss while playing Vichy French,I think it might be found on Gunman's forum.


 
Posted : 03/05/2010 10:30 pm
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or, if you wanted a fighting chance, you could get one of these.
http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=pr ... ct_id=3661
I would have bought one ages ago, if it wasn't for funds, ukara, etc....

I've got one of those. :lol:

Once you've dismantled it and tightened/ptfe'd all the screws so it doesn't leak gas like a contended dog after a big meal, it's a surprisingly good gun.


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 8:15 am
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or, if you wanted a fighting chance, you could get one of these.
http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=pr ... ct_id=3661
I would have bought one ages ago, if it wasn't for funds, ukara, etc....

I've got one of those. :lol:

Once you've dismantled it and tightened/ptfe'd all the screws so it doesn't leak gas like a contended dog after a big meal, it's a surprisingly good gun.

Hmm. I hadn't thought of PTFEing the screws...
I have a plan to sleeve-seal the end of the gas reservoir tube, though. Mine won't hold 134a because it's too dry to "wet pressure-seal" that butt joint.


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 8:54 am
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seconded, once a little work they are very nice,
i re stocked my one cos i love wood ;) lovly old .22 cherry wood stock, just had anuff to do the fore wood as well as the butt :)

re 95th jacket,
got lucky on ebay a few years ago, £68 posted i think, suttlers do repro vertions for i think about 100-150


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Posted : 04/05/2010 9:07 am
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seconded, once a little work they are very nice,
i re stocked my one cos i love wood ;) lovly old .22 cherry wood stock, just had anuff to do the fore wood as well as the butt :)

Another thing on my neverending list of jobs to do! :D


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 9:53 am
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Shame it's not the 1870 or previous pattern :? , wouldn't be a prolem with the VCRA then.
I've also built an owen, although it didn't come out very well (made from scrap parts and milliput), and assisted in building a Type-100 - which hopefully i'll be finishing the front end of soon.
I've also been planning a Vickers-Berthier/Type 96 for a while now; i'll get that started when I can find the bits I need for a reasonable price.
-Matt


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 9:58 am
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I was thinking it's a shame it's not an 1895 pattern as then it'd be usable in a WWII Soviet Partisan impression. Apparently quite a few were ordered by the Russians for use in WWI and were still being used by Partisans in WWII. At least so one of my books says...

What's more of a problem is that it's not in stock! lol.


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 10:19 am
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Airsoft Baker Rifle has been done already:

http://vid16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/fmjpug/airsoft/bakerproject_net.fl v"> http://i16.photobucket.com/player.swf?f ... ct_net.flv

I think he used a cut-down Marui AEG gearbox, removed the gears and custom made a trigger and sear so the piston is cocked by the ram-rod!


“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 04/05/2010 11:25 am
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I was thinking it's a shame it's not an 1895 pattern as then it'd be usable in a WWII Soviet Partisan impression. Apparently quite a few were ordered by the Russians for use in WWI and were still being used by Partisans in WWII. At least so one of my books says...

Surely for partisans, resistance, etc. just about anything that predates WWII would suffice?
1892s were produced right up until the beginning of WWII, and don't look all that different from the 1894 which was produced up until 2006 (and apparently soon to restart on a limited basis by FN).

What's more of a problem is that it's not in stock! lol.

The only one I could find had a 20mm scope rail on it. :?
Changing that to a tangent sight is on my todo list.


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 11:47 am
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Airsoft Baker Rifle has been done already:

http://vid16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/fmjpug/airsoft/bakerproject_net.fl v"> http://i16.photobucket.com/player.swf?f ... ct_net.flv

I think he used a cut-down Marui AEG gearbox, removed the gears and custom made a trigger and sear so the piston is cocked by the ram-rod!

Haha thats pretty clever, looks like a decent bit of kit too. Wonder where he got the parts from, replicas are expensive from what i remember


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Posted : 04/05/2010 4:05 pm
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Fantastic. I want one.

Is this the right time to start banging on about Napoleonic Airsofting again?

Realistic ranges, accuracy, casualty rates etc etc. Lack of numbers is a complete non-argument; we've played The Battle of the Bulge with just 60 people. There's no reason not to do a skirmish in the woods outside Hougoumont.

We could call it Comrades in Redcoats or something.....


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 7:14 pm
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Fantastic. I want one.

Is this the right time to start banging on about Napoleonic Airsofting again?

Realistic ranges, accuracy, casualty rates etc etc. Lack of numbers is a complete non-argument; we've played The Battle of the Bulge with just 60 people. There's no reason not to do a skirmish in the woods outside Hougoumont.

We could call it Comrades in Redcoats or something.....

Find a way for me to have a Fusil d'Dragon and my head wear will be yellow plumed :D


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 7:38 pm
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Over the Hills and O'er the Main,
To Flanders, Portugal and Spain,
The queen commands and we'll obey
Over the Hills and far away

go on barry we'll make a 6 barrel airsoft musket !!


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 8:59 pm
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The 7 barreled muskets (Nock volley guns) were intended as sniper weapons for marines in the fighting tops of sailing ships! :D

Reportedly, the recoil was so heavy it would break the firer's shoulder on a fairly regular basis (all barrels discharged at once), so they were never very popular!
I'll play if I can bring an airsoft Grand Battery, a grey overcoat and bicorn with rosette :P
-Matt


 
Posted : 04/05/2010 9:16 pm
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I would order a Winchester but I just don't see why they have to make it gas, surely with a damn big cocking leaver they can make a simple air piston system like the old BB air rifles. We are talking .2gm plastic 400 fps not lead after all :x


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Posted : 05/05/2010 11:54 am
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The 7 barreled muskets (Nock volley guns) were intended as sniper weapons for marines in the fighting tops of sailing ships! :D

Reportedly, the recoil was so heavy it would break the firer's shoulder on a fairly regular basis (all barrels discharged at once), so they were never very popular!
I'll play if I can bring an airsoft Grand Battery, a grey overcoat and bicorn with rosette :P
-Matt

They weren't sniper weapons, they were the exact opposite, it was used for sweeping decks when boarding other vessels and shot from the rigging to clear decks as well. It fired pistol balls rather than musket balls so smaller...


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CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR

 
Posted : 05/05/2010 5:30 pm
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The 7 barreled muskets (Nock volley guns) were intended as sniper weapons for marines in the fighting tops of sailing ships! :D

Reportedly, the recoil was so heavy it would break the firer's shoulder on a fairly regular basis (all barrels discharged at once), so they were never very popular!
I'll play if I can bring an airsoft Grand Battery, a grey overcoat and bicorn with rosette :P
-Matt

They weren't sniper weapons, they were the exact opposite, it was used for sweeping decks when boarding other vessels and shot from the rigging to clear decks as well. It fired pistol balls rather than musket balls so smaller...

Apparently they (along with muskets) were ordered not to be used in the sails as there were cases of the burning wadding setting fire to the sails and rigging. That tactic was very much frowned upon my Nelson


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Posted : 05/05/2010 5:33 pm
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The 7 barreled muskets (Nock volley guns) were intended as sniper weapons for marines in the fighting tops of sailing ships! :D
-Matt

They weren't sniper weapons, they were the exact opposite, it was used for sweeping decks when boarding other vessels and shot from the rigging to clear decks as well. It fired pistol balls rather than musket balls so smaller...

Not what i've been told; i've always been told the multiple barrels were to increase the chance of hitting a high priority target, i.e an officer, when smoothbore weapons weren't all that accurate.
Having said that, i'm sure they were perfect for sweeping decks as well; it makes a lot more sense in fact. The originals were .52" calibre, and only downgraded to the smaller pistol ball after the shoulder breaking complaints.

That tactic was very much frowned upon my Nelson

Ironic considering how he died!
-Matt


 
Posted : 05/05/2010 6:43 pm
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The 7 barreled muskets (Nock volley guns) were intended as sniper weapons for marines in the fighting tops of sailing ships! :D
-Matt

They weren't sniper weapons, they were the exact opposite, it was used for sweeping decks when boarding other vessels and shot from the rigging to clear decks as well. It fired pistol balls rather than musket balls so smaller...

Not what i've been told; i've always been told the multiple barrels were to increase the chance of hitting a high priority target, i.e an officer, when smoothbore weapons weren't all that accurate.
Having said that, i'm sure they were perfect for sweeping decks as well; it makes a lot more sense in fact. The originals were .52" calibre, and only downgraded to the smaller pistol ball after the shoulder breaking complaints.

That tactic was very much frowned upon my Nelson

Ironic considering how he died!
-Matt

You were told wrong...no offence. I smoothbore gun with a barrel that long, fired from 40 - 60ft in the air on a ship which is moving not only forward but also up and down, back and forth and side to side whilst being blasted with round shot, grape shot and shell. Muskets were used for sniping until the Baker Rifle was invented and even then not used by the Navy.


Show me a man who will jump out of an airplane, and I'll show you a man who will fight!
General James M. Gavin

CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR

 
Posted : 05/05/2010 6:55 pm
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